It’s About Enterprise : A Discussion With Docker's VP of Engineering

Featuring Milind Gadre | June 21, 2019

In this episode of Stay Tuned With Opsani, we speak with Docker’s Milind Gadre about why customers are starting to adopt enterprise solutions like Docker for containerization needs, and how open source may be beginning to fall short of their needs. We also discuss how Docker and Opsani are working together to make AIOPs easy to use.

Podcast Transcription

Announcer: Hello, and welcome to Opsani Radio. In this episode Courtney Kehl speaks with Docker’s Milind Gadre about why customers are starting to adopt enterprise solutions like Docker for containerization needs and how open source may be beginning to fall short of their needs. We’ll also hear how Docker and Opsani are working together to make AI Ops easy to use.

Courtney: All right; well, I’m here at DockerCon and how do I say your name?

Milind: My first name is Milind, yeah.

Courtney: With Docker and so it’s my first time here at DockerCon, so as you’re walking around the show floor and checking out the various sessions, are you seeing any trends, any industry topics coming to the surface?

Milind: I think one of the big things that I have at least noticed over the last few months is, you know, everyone clearly understands that Docker and containers is the way to build applications – build, deploy and run applications. But I think what started happening is they’ve gotten a little tired of working with the open source community and stuff which is out there and they are coming to us to say, “Hey, there is a lot of stuff happening in the open source community, it’s a lot of interesting things but we want something that’s secure, reliable and that actually is tuned to our us cases” and that’s what actually led to the partnerships and some of the other interesting stuff that’s going on with the enterprises, and so on, with Docker Desktop and things like that, so I think to me that is, I’d say probably the biggest trend.

Everything else we’ve kind of read about – Kubernetes and all that – we support Kubernetes. We make it very easy to deploy and run Kubernetes but all that stuff you kind of hear about, but for me the sort of most interesting thing was this change where people are now starting to come to us and say, “Hey, you know, we need stuff which works, which is secure, which is reliable, that somebody can stand behind,” and that’s really what they are coming to Docker for.

Courtney: Sure; that’s a really good point and open source is not addressing that in that way?

Milind: Exactly; open source you have a lot of options but you have to decide what works, and managing versions and managing security and ensuring that if there is a security vulnerability that you get a response in time. Those are things that are a little hard to rely on for certain companies.

Courtney: Sure; and are you familiar with the use case with Docker.

Milind: With Opsani; yes, very much so. In fact, I was just talking to Ross about some additional sort of collaboration that we can do as two companies, so yes, I’m very familiar. I think we’ve definitely benefited a lot from what we’ve done so far but I want to take it to the next level. AI Ops is really the thing that everyone is talking about. The thing for us, between the two companies, is to figure out a way to make AI Ops sort of just supersimple for the customer to use.

So far it’s been this big term, there’s AI, there’s Ops, all these fancy things, but it’s been difficult for people to get it to work and if we can work something out so that for most customers, you know, AI Ops is just a question of dropping in an Opsani container or a set of containers and having it all attuned, that environment for performance and parse and things like that, that would be ideal, so that’s what we are hoping to work towards.

Courtney: Right; and I think there is a chemistry between the two companies?

Milind: Exactly; yeah.

Courtney: That’s obvious. Great; well, I am excited. The energy here has been fabulous.

Milind: Awesome; yeah.

Courtney: So I appreciate your time; I know you just got a tug on your sleeve unexpectedly so I’m thrilled and it’s your first podcast so we’ll be sure to send it on over to you.

Milind: Thanks so much.

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